Re: Oly-2: Problem with skill lists ?

Jeff Heinen (jeffh@inherent.com)
Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:53:48 -0800

At 9:27 AM -0500 on 3/11/97, Pierre H Pero wrote:

> I have sent the following to support@pbm.com 3 times in the last week.
> But a week with no response I wonder if that is the correct address.

Well, Rich seems to be pretty busy. Plus he has not had time to go
back and clean up the rules. Has anyone gone back and done that? The
hybred rules are very difficut sometimes.


> Are there errors in Olympia G2s skill progression?
>
> The following are lists of what skills are learnable without research ( easy )
> in 3 schools. If G2 is compared with G1 each list has one easy subject that has
> been swaped with one researched skill. And the trades come as a suprise to me.

Well, Its just one of the many changes. I would suggest you avoid
comparing the two games. There is tons of changes that may or
may not seem "correcT", but that is what he decided to do.

However, I do see some rationality in these. Non-researched skills
should be those known either fairly widely, or easy to figure out.
The harder/more powerful/more hidden spells should be those you have
to research.

> G2 G1
> Magic
> 801 Meditate 9101 Meditate
> 802 Perform common tasks for gold 9103 Perform common tasks for gold
> 803 Appear common 9104 Appear common
> 804 View current aura level of others 9105 View CA of others
> 805 Reveal abilities of another mage 9146 Heal < ???

Heal got moved to Religeon.. Reveal abilitys seems to work fine here tho.
Its a fairly common idea that does not grant too much power.

> Gatecraft
> 861 Teleport 9116 Jump through gate < ???
> 862 Detect gates 9115 Detect gates

I like this change. Knowledge to use the gates should be hard to comeby, but
anyone with a gate crystal should be able to use it and teleport.

> Forestry
> 701 Construct battering ram 9540 Construct battering ram
> 702 Harvest lumber 9568 Harvest lumber
> 703 Harvest yew 9569 Harvest yew
> 704 Collect rare foliage 9583 Collect rare foliage
> 705 Harvest mallorn wood 9588 Harvest opium < ???

Again, knowing how to harvest mallorn would be more widley know, and better
accepted then opium.

> It strikes me that the 1st N skills in a school were made to not need
> research. But the lists were not rearranged to put the skills in the proper
> order. Since in G1 the 1st N skills were not always the easy skills.

I guess I dont understand what your objection is. No, there is not a difficulty order in the skill lists, but does there need to be? Everyone will pick what
spells they want to learn and in what order anyway.

-Jeff

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