Peter Beerepoot
>
>>In a message dated 3/3/99 2:51:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, glipster@utah-
>>inter.net writes:
>>
>>> hmmmm, When I read the posting about the Camaris straight, I did not see
it
>>> as anything other than attempt to warn people that there was an armed
>>> conflict underway. He didn't say it was closed, just to let them know
you
>>> were going to be traveling through the area so you weren't attacked by
>>> mistake. Nothing against Hugh or anyone else, I just think people are
>>> misunderstanding the intent.
>>>
>>
>>to interject in an area that is none of my concern (because that's
apparently
>>what I do best) the Borg have made it clear that they intend to attack ALL
>>ships in the Camaris Strait unless they are contacted.
>
>
>Nope. We will consider all ships HOSTILE. That's hostile to us. We
didn't say
>we would instantly declare ourselves hostile to them.
>
>>in Andrew's (member of Borg) response to this thread on 2/28 he said, in
part:
>>====================================================
>>The problem is that in a fluid fast moving war it is difficult to
>>find out all the ID's of the enemy. So if you are zooming around at
>>high speed trying to find the enemy and engage him you have a
>>problem. The easiest way is to just set HOSTILE ALL and put neutral
>>orders in for the neutral forces you know of.
>>====================================================
>>
>>By their own admission they intend to issue Hostile All orders because
"it's
>>easier" then taking the time to gather intel on your intended targets and
>>avoid collateral damage. A proper miltary campaign would take the time to
>>find out who their targets were rather than run around with Hostile All
orders
>>in place.
>
>
>No and No. Andrew has pointed out that issuing "hostile all" is the
easiest
>method and that's all. To date, this is not a tactic we have used in
neutral
>territory. His points are obvious to the experienced but I believe he has
>provided them for the uninitiated. It certainly remains an option and we
would
>like to let others know that if worse comes to worse we may employ extreme
>methods. When one is dealing with their own survival, I wouldn't consider
it
>unusual at all. As for what one would do in a proper military campaign...
well
>both the LoTC and ourselves could tell the inexperienced Seehawk that
taking
>your time to find out who all of your targets are isn't how it works. This
is a
>very dynamic environment and you don't always have months to plan and you
sure
>don't have months to react. You expend as much effort as possible to
identify
>the best targets because it makes tactical sense but unless you're engaging
a
>bunch of half-wits, you'll never know exactly who and what lies around the
>corner. Surprise is the biggest advantage and we respect the fact the our
>adversaries will use it to the maximum! When the Seehawk has put "a proper
>military campaign" under his belt, I'm sure he will change his tune.
>
>>I'm not attempting to pass judgment on the tactic (well, maybe a little
>>judgement) but telling the world you're issuing Hostile All orders in a
region
>>is tantamount to saying "stay out". It's an attempt by the agressor to
lay
>>the blame for mistakes on the defender.
>
>
>We didn't have to say anything! There is a war out there and we're letting
you
>know about it! We're saying "stay out" if you're uncomfortable with the
>fighting and don't wish to identify yourself. At least you can make an
informed
>decision!
>
>>It's like blaming a mugging victim in New York city for getting mugged.
"Hey,
>>you KNEW there was crime in NYC...why did you go there?
>
>
>Not a well thought out analogy. Most people who go to New York don't
expect to
>get mugged and in fact they don't. How about taking a vacation to Iraq
during
>Desert Storm? On a planet of billions, how many people did that? Get
real.
>
>>Luckily neither I or TIB have any shipping in the region, but I can say
that
>>if my ship fell victim to an overly agressive military vessel that
couldn't be
>>bothered to do it's homework I would probably be a little ticked myself.
>
>
>It's highly unlikely that we will ever attack anyone other than a member of
the
>Lords of the Crown. For those of you who are overly sensitive to our
efforts to
>reduce those odds even further, our apologies, but we have to provide the
>information to those who will benefit from it.
>
>Jay
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