(Sorry for the strange reply-fashion, it's just me :-) )
>>Please good people, let us look at the facts.
>>
>>Stahl und Stein lost a noble, they offered a bounty. The bounty they
>decreed
>>is:
>>
>>1) Not on their territory,
>
>
>So?
I will not offer a bounty on your turf, I will if I feel I am correct appeal
to the owner of the territory and ask for an explanation/measures.
>>2) Completely illegal, because stahl und stein do not have the rights to
>>decree this. They can however contact the ruler of this domain and ask for
>>an explanation. This has not happened here. The rightful ruler of this
>>domain can then consider if this is a valid reason for sanctioning.
>
>Really? Could you please point out the section in the rules that makes
>this an illegal player device?
The province the SUS noble got attacked is a LOTC-province, and the LOTC
still rule supreme over their lands, not MING, nor you, nor anyone else will
have anything to say about this area. This is an excempt of our edicts, you
and anybody else will have to respect these rules.
/*
Edict nr. 6 : As knights of honor we feel it is our duty to protect the weak
and innocent even outside our borders. If you were attacked, been robbed for
no good reason you can appeal to the Lords of the Crown. If your cause is
just, your words the truth, we will consider help in anyway.
*/
>If we are talking "historical references", many Merchantile Houses
>offered rewards for the apprehention of bandits what raided their
>factors or trains outside the legal jurisdiction of their "country"
>of origin.
Exactly, OUTSIDE the legal jurisdiction. Thank you.
>
>It would fall to the bounty hunter to get the proper writs from the
>liege of the region wherin the "hunted" is being sought. And to be
>quite frank, I doubt if many even bothered. They either stumbled
>about and found nothing [or got into trouble themselves for their
>trespass, if caught] or were in and out with their prize before anyone
>was the wiser.
>
>In the context of this game...anyone seeking to collect this bounty by
>traversing LotC lands during war time with out the leave of _all_ the
>participants is, quite frankly, going to be nominated to receive the
>Olympian equivilent of the Darwin Award.
>>3) Completely out of line.
>
>This is your point of view, and you are justified in stating it. I
>disagree, and I am equally justified in stating it. Same justification.
>We are both paying $2.50 a turn to Rich. So, I imagine, is SuS. And
>that, in my book, gives him the justification to do with his game assetts
>whatever the rules allow.
What does the $2.50 has anything to do with this, people please, there is NO
$2.50 in olympia. The olympian currency is, while it lasts and noone makes
his own currency, gold (by my knowledge, maybe we will start paying with
MING's soon <g>)
>>4) A proof that PLATO is once again trying TO DICTATE their laws and
ethics
>>in other people's territory if STAHL und STEIN is a PLATO member or a
>member
>>of the PLATO satelite Inner Circle.
>
>By your reckoning, you forget the _other_ PLATO satelite: Harn.
>[there, you see, I _warned_ you I couldn't keep totally serious]
>You do have a point that the "poor downtrodden independant faction"
>routine is not applicable if it turns out SuS is either PLATO, Harn,
>or IC. I notice no one accused him of being one of the 135+ nobles
>belonging to the EA satelite: LotC. ;-D
LOTC is no Eagle satelite, we are an independent alliance.
>
>Are you saying that if he is your enemy, he can not put a bounty upon your
>head? If he _is_ your enemy, you were justified in attacking him.
>Suspecting him of being an enemy is justification enough. Neither of
>those two conditions in any way denies him the _right_ or _opportunity_
>to put a price on the head of the attacker.
SUS should respect the rules of the lands he is in.
>>Stahl und Stein was DENIED ACCESS to this area. He agreed with us that it
>>was a righftul decision seen the current military operations going on in
>>this area. Stahl und Stein was thus illegal in this area.
>>
>>The only thing we need to know is if the Stahl und Stein is a member of
one
>>of the alliances we are at war with. And Cendage testifies it is.
>
>You are look like you are trying to justify the attack. Again, if it
>was a LotC noble what hit him in a warzone, you had all the justifica- tion
>you needed. Whomever of the LotC what "did the deed" did a "good"
>thing, as far as you and your allies are concerned.
I am not justifying anything, I am stressing the fact EVERYONE should
respect our rules.
As we do not make rules on someone elses turf, nobody else should.
>Whomever SuS belongs to, or doesn't belong to, is immaterial. He has
>made a _legitimate_ offer. Only two questions remain:
>
>1. Does he have the cash to pay up
> and
>2. Who has the sand to do the "collecting"
This is irrelevant seen the illegality of the decree/bounty.
Regards,
Domme.